Event Date: 08/10/2020. Individual experiences may vary. Generally speaking, the lawyers considered their work-life balance not bad for a commercial firm of Addleshaw Goddard’s stature. Another trainee comments: “AG on the whole is incredibly approachable and supportive. The Legal 500 UK. Of course, there’s always that slight chance that at some point somewhere firms will get so desperate that they will take in retrains. By this point, I was fuming inside because I couldn’t change anything and I fully understood that all these seats will not give me the kind of future and practice I imagined. Granting of leases and renewals and sales and acquisitions have dropped off in commercial real estate for obvious reasons. I know for a fact it’s not from people working at MCs cause they wouldn’t have a second to spare to get on LegalCheek and would get into bother being seen not working at all hours of the night. Yeah… that’s basically all we can do – hope for a better tomorrow that’s not going to come for months. My first seat was in a department I had no interest in. Additionally, Al Malizia has accepted the position of vice president of operations, and will […] Guess what – 3 weeks from him starting his TC we stopped meeting up, another month later he wouldn’t even have the time or energy to tell me if he was alive. Fortunately they agreed for the most part and only had to do a very little amount of admin. I wanted one practice area, I would happily do my other seats in whatever random shite they wanted me to do so long as I got that one seat. The post Addleshaw Goddard keeps 33 out of 37 autumn qualifying trainees appeared first on Legal Cheek. Jan van Dijk has joined TriMas as its vice president of tax and treasury and will be located at the Company’s global headquarters in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Use one of the buttons below to sign in or create a new account. AG were hiring loads just before the pandemic. They were consistently late and unorganised with moving you on to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th seat. I think a lot of firms have used the pandemic as an excuse to get rid of people but as you say – did they really give those people a chance to succeed? But honestly, I think people seriously forget that big company names do not equal good practices or good knowledge. Or you’ll be so overworked and overstretched that its impossible to produce decent work, and you’ll be punished for that too. Is this the future of law recruitment? I tried transferring my TC to another firm, looked at every possible way to get out – apparently TC transfers are a big taboo in this profession – why? You get involved in really interesting and niche work, attend high-profile cases and events and you are trusted to run your own matters/ files quite often.”. Now we waste 2 years of our lives doing meaningless stuff for a firm that doesn’t care about you and get stuck with whatever presets they chose for us… Where’s the logic in this? The legal profession is going to die if this doesn’t change, yes there will always be law students, but who wants to stay in a profession that takes your life and your mental health away for a wage that’s pyrrhic? This includes the people who did not do a seat in the area they qualified into. Everyone finds their level. You can be earning around 140k in your twenties. There is relatively little opportunity to work internationally, although two lawyers spent six months abroad, one in Qatar and the other in Hong Kong. My experience was very similar to most trainees – I found a firm I thought would be great, applied, got the interview, was very straightforward on how I see my career and practice evolve – they loved it! Unfortunately, there aren’t many firms that truly look after their own people. To address some of the comments above and as someone previously at AG, can confirm that the hours for corporate/finance associates is pretty much the same as the hours found in MC and US firms – only difference is you’re taking a 20-70K hit on salary depending on seniority. Contact Details Chambers and Partners No.3 Waterhouse Square 138 Holborn London, United Kingdom EC1N 2SW View in maps Contact Us Giles is a Corporate Finance partner based in London. To be honest I wouldn’t even make such a sacrifice at a US firm, where at least they provide an (arguably) justifiable salary in exchange for the terrible and bizarre lifestyle on offer. First year trainees in Leeds and Manchester receive £27,500, while second years earn £29,500 and newly qualified (NQ) solicitors are paid £45,000. The outfit confirmed it … Registered in England and Wales with Company Number 08037587. Addleshaw lets trainees get stuck in on proper lawyer work rather than boring tasks. Students/trainees should therefore have real data that could help guide their ambitions. Eversheds Sutherland – 50. An insider tells us: “The hierarchy is fairly flat at AG. I know the exit wasn’t chosen by those made redundant in this article, but as LC has a large grad rec focus I’m surprised they haven’t talked about this more already. I reckon it’s the latter so I left. I don’t know how much AG pay their associates but for me, taking home 20-30k less per year but knowing I would be home to cook dinner with my partner every night or be able to meet friends who have the fortune of working 9-5 somewhere interesting (and would pretty much never have to work on the weekend) was a trade off worth making. Don’t know why you’re getting so heavily downvoted. On the evening of Tuesday 26 November lawyers from the Leeds office of global law firm Addleshaw Goddard will gather at Legal Cheek’s latest student event to consider what we can expect from the Northern Powerhouse economy of the 2020s – and to mull the … I have a friend who was “lucky enough” to get his TC in an MC firm. Honestly from where I am now, I would not advise a young person to go into law for exactly the reasons you’ve described – you simply don’t know what you’re getting and it may prove to be extremely difficult to get out into something good. Shortlisted firms: Addleshaw Goddard Graduates, Allen & Overy UK Graduate Recruitment, Bird & Bird Graduates UK, Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner Graduates, CMS … The only people who clock off at 6/7 are the folk in Planning, Pensions and other similarly small teams. Legal Cheek is going round the country for its final series of student commercial awareness events of 2019. Legal PA at Addleshaw Goddard. Graduate recruitment is dominated by it. Most of the people that end up in real estate are there as a safe and easy option because they didn’t get what they wanted or they found that what they thought they wanted was crap (corporate/PE). Part of this strategy involves its "Client Development Centre (CDC)," an innovative idea and set of services launched by Dr. Jim Hever who holds a … For all the latest commercial awareness info, and advance notification of Legal Cheek's careers events: Out of interest, what would have actually dropped-off in the real estate world to necessitate this? Other firms to make job cuts in recent months include Reed Smith, Irwin Mitchell and Fieldfisher. The firm has a strong interest in tech, and offers trainees a six-month lawtech seat working alongside lawyers and technologists to develop products in its innovation and legal technology group. “Some (but not many) trainees manage to leave at six on the dot every day.”. One trainee said they “haven’t come across a single partner that I wouldn’t walk up to for a chat or to ask questions”. The partners and their clients are the winners – how do you think they perceive trainees and associates responding to emails until 3am every night? My level is home ownership and occasionally seeing my wife. Addleshaw Goddard has become the latest big legal player to up the salaries of its newly qualified … “Peaks and troughs…some people have a worse time of it than others,” said one. Our Innovation and Legal Technology Team was formed three years ago and blends technology and legal expertise and is fully integrated into our business. Terrible hours, below par pay, no soul, declining mental health. Social media is amazing, especially when these same firms that destroyed the lives and careers of their juniors brag about growth and increased partner remunerations… You may get into bother if you lie on your CV to get a job, but it’s ok for these firms to lie about the kind of roles and prospects they’re offering you. Addleshaw Goddard has cut 19 lawyer roles across its UK offices following a redundancy consultation. Addleshaw Goddard is a premium international business law firm. So now I’m stuck with a profession that’s stressful, gives me no joy and there’s little I can do to change that. AG have just lost a significant client and are on the brink of losing others. © Copyright 2021 Legal Cheek Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Otherwise, “day-to-day, we learn on the job with clear instructions and feedback,” a rookie reports. Anna has been in the Addleshaw Goddard Restructuring team for over 12 years, starting her career in the Leeds office. A lot of what juniors do in mid-market firm RE teams is asset management churn – has the marquee acquisition/development pipeline stalled? In my experience, law firms have a tendency to decide very early who is good or bad – they say its fine to make mistakes, but those will be held over you and future opportunities for good work assignments will be held back from you. I didn’t get the seats I wanted and was lumped into banking and you realise that your fate is beyond your control. On Wednesday 6 November Legal Cheek is partnering with Addleshaw Goddard for an evening with its lawyers at the firm’s Edinburgh office. Granted, it is very difficult, but it is possible. 3:47. Addleshaw-Goddard (AG), the 15th largest law firm in the UK, is seeking ways to serve larger clients on more important legal matters. Secondment probabilities derived from the Legal Cheek Trainee and Junior Lawyer Survey 2020–21 of over 2,000 trainees and junior associates at the leading law firms in the UK. In your twenties (or in uni) it kind of matters where you work because it defines you and people actually care but when you hit your 30s everyone already knows you’re lame and whether it’s CC or AG makes no difference at all to the people who matter. MC kids will mock an AG lawyer for earning less but they’ll be laughing from the office/their bedroom on zoom. This is the interesting bit though, we, in the UK tend to pick one field to specialise in, whilst in Europe, it is widely accepted that a legal professional can pick any area he wants to work in – very much how barristers work. Following a nine month secondment in 2011 to a clearing bank Anna moved to the London Restructuring team in 2011. Agree completely. Amy Winchester. You have literally just described exactly what happened to me. At the same time, let’s face it, often the reality doesn’t match our expectations and fantasies about what it would be like working in one particular area or another (saw that ever so briefly in the corporate department). Partner, Corporate ; London, UK Expertise. Confirming the cuts today, a firm spokesperson said: “We can confirm that 19 individuals have been made redundant and three colleagues have redeployed into other teams. The multidisciplinary Addleshaw Goddard practice combines lawyers and senior compliance professionals to provide legal, compliance, conduct, risk and governance support. Regardless of your background, if you’re motivated by the prospect of joining Addleshaw Goddard, we look forward to your application. It should also be a requirement, upon starting a TC that a written agreement is signed between the firm and a trainee clearly outlining which seats have been agreed. I could go on listing things how this firm is destroying him and his life, but why would I? I like the idea of wage slaving for a few millionaires being “winning”. First year trainees in Scotland receive £23,500, while second years earn £26,000 and NQ solicitors are paid £42,000. My second seat was a choice between 2 departments I had absolutely no interest in. Graham is recommended in the Legal 500 for Mid-market M&A where he has been described as being "insightful, creative and hardworking" and is noted for his client service and dedication. The above figures are for London. Pages Businesses Media/News Company Legal Cheek Videos What does the rise of artificial intelligence mean for patent lawyers? Speaking at the time, John Joyce, managing partner, said: “[O]ur real estate team has grown over the last five years to match demand which has now reduced in some areas and after much thought we now recognise that we need to make changes given the limited prospects of imminent recovery.”. Part of this strategy involves its "Client Development Centre (CDC)," an innovative idea and set of services launched by Dr. Jim Hever who holds a … I was promised that everyone got to do their first choice at least once and instead I’ve been put in areas not even remotely related to what I wanted. Trust me, when you work in that kind of environment, one you cannot escape from – no amount of money will be enough to make it “worthwhile”. Feel free to DM me on LinkedIn do you want to discuss confidentially, Thanks Chris. You really need to be strict about what you’re willing to give in order to climb that career ladder and think hard whether it’s ever worth it. Thankfully, Legal Cheek just released its 2020 firms most list, and has ranked the UK's top firms. The focus of the session will be on how technology is … Guess what happened next? It does feel like a short term option as a career because the opportunities are so limited and firms are so happy to throw juniors aside the second its convenient. Addleshaw Goddard Graduates. My recent experience has been that, even if you get an interview for a retrain, employers treat you with such a degree of suspicion (in terms of switching back to the original area of law you come from) that it makes me think why on earth did they waste my time calling me for an interview then? The open-plan layout means you are always learning from your surroundings, and get to know senior members of the team fairly quickly.”, Prior to each seat, trainees are given at least a day of training to bring them up to speed with the basic concepts involved. Thx for the comment fresher. According to another rookie, “You don’t feel like a trainee and your role isn’t particularly admin heavy. Addleshaw Goddard advises BAT on acquisition of Swedish snus maker. Guy’s barely 30 but he looks 40 odd and not the “good 40” so to speak.. This again brings me to my previous point about locking ourselves into one particular area of law which makes it very difficult for people to tweak their careers. Don’t think i’ve seen honest chat like this in the LC comments for sometime. Legal Cheek Scottish Law Fair. These things can happen to anyone. My 4th seat was basically a repeat of my 1st seat…. Silver and Magic circle are all vanity. Nevertheless, many feel they have further to go, with one person highlighting that the takeaway food comes in a polystyrene box and the salads come in plastic tubs, and another noting that, despite the firm’s policy that domestic air travel should only be done with permission, “all Scottish trainees were straight away given the option of flying down to London for the trainee conference”. TriMas has announced that the Company has added two new leaders to its organization. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of those shovelled out are relatively new hires. Legal Cheek’s event with Addleshaw Goddard last month provided an opportunity for students to gain insights into different routes to law. In reality, I think trainees need to be given far more say over their own careers and the quality of training needs to be improved. Of course, Covid was an easy way to get rid of those underperformers, but firms should ask themselves – have you done enough to ensure your juniors had an opportunity to shine? Lawyers from the firm’s corporate, commercial, technology and finance teams will discuss their work advising multinationals, global banks and fintech start-ups, including Edinburgh-based Skyscanner. You get into a firm that promises you the world and an amazing career, you get in and see it was a complete lie, and the first opportunity they get – you’re out. Or good knowledge found an employer that would listen to you and “ really stationery. 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