Close. Further, you can boost thrust damage with the leo ring. the astora has 612 AR and the zwei has 644 AR. Also, the Greatsword's base damage is 400 vs the Zweihander's 360. 548 1 1 gold badge 5 5 silver badges 10 10 bronze badges. That would probably make an abyss greatsword. #1. Profaned Greatsword is a weapon in dark souls 3. What's better? Abyss Dweller. This shockwave extends past the length of the blade, and can cause staggering without actually causing any damage. Greatsword of Artorias +5 (Cursed) = 237 Attack, 100 critical, C str, dex, int, & faith modifiers. Any thoughts? Zwei hander is one of the best ultra greatswords you can acquire. Here is the build http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=249311689700564021 I personally prefer the greatsword, since it can do both normal and thrust (strong attack). They both have the exact same scaling. share | improve this answer | follow | answered Oct 14 '14 at 18:20. share. I might just have to equip the Mask of the Father. Question. < > Showing 1-10 of 10 comments . the moveset on that sword is a lot of fun, and its almost never seen in pvp so you could catch people by surprise with it. level 1. In your experiences, which one of these is best? Watch Queue Queue I don't have anything to back this up...but it seems like the Zweihander does more poise damage. But now I'm stuck with unused faith stats, likely I'll start over for better build... Last edited by C03; Nov 16, 2016 @ 5:59pm < > Showing 1-15 of 23 comments . Thrusting attacks also get a bonus for counter damage, even without the Leo Ring. The Greatsword is more versatile due to its moveset, but less practical due to its shorter range and weight. This video is unavailable. When you enter the cementary you will see a few skeletons and at least one Obtained by transposing the Soul of the Blood of the Wolf and 10,000 souls with Ludleth of Courland. Zweihander and Greatsword R1's are the same speed Zweihander has a faster R2 Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. A community dedicated to Dark Souls I, game released for PC, PlayStation 3 and 4, Xbox 360/One, and Switch (Remastered). I find Mugenmonkey's build calculator to be a much better source than the wikis, which have lots of errors. Located on a corpse in the graveyard between the Firelink Shrine and The Catacombs behind three Skeletons and one Giant Skeleton. Notes: Give to Frampt to receive 50 souls. So... is there any difference besides the strong attack of the Greatsword? report. If you compare the special damage resistances on armour to their defence vs regular type attacks, heavy armour has much higher resistance to slash, while usually lower resistance to strike. Atlhough Zwei's R2 can also be sidestepped, it has a faster … Comparing the Zweihander and the Greatsword I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). The Zweihander have the same basic attack and the strong attack of the Zweihander, in my opinion, is a litlle better. The reverse is true for light armour. It is 100 damages lower but permit me to fast roll, totally worth it. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The difference in attack rating between 0 and 10 humanity is around 74 at minimum stat requirements. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. … Ascension with the Soul of Artorias and any normal +10 Greatsword, straight sword or dagger (exept Broken Sword or Straight Sword Hilt). Zweihander vs. astora Which one should i use? I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). Astora's on a quality, Zwei on a strength. Why, Sif? May 22, 2017 @ 9:13pm what else is good? The wolf knight was the first Abyss Watcher, and his sword is more punishing against creations of the abyss. Question. Acquired From; Zweihander. TheNeeoo TheNeeoo. The hero tried to stop the growing dark, tried to defeat Manus, and succeeded. Durability / Weight - Attack Type - Skill; Skill. This land was overrun by the abyss, spread by Manus. They are actually identical, the wikispaces website is incorrect. If you already have the faith, int and dex requirements for the Abyss Greatsword it's worth the farming time to try it. How to Get / Where to Find the Abyss Greatsword. Close. May 22, 2017 @ 9:07pm I'd go for Astora, if it's only a choice between those two. Greatsword weighs 2 units more, requires 4 extra stat points, and has the same amount of damage. Ore Smelters increase availability. Unsung hero wielded an enormous greatsword, and with the last strike, the weapon absorbed a bit of the dark beast's soul. hide. Well, in some cases, not bloody much. Zweihander vs Greatsword. an Enchanted Greatsword +5 has better int scaling(A) than an Enchanted Zweihander +5(B), according to the wiki. On 25th December 2020 By . You wouldn't be using the Greatsword on a Leo build though. Any dagger, straight or great sword will make the Abyss greatsword. OnionBro. Had to go no armor against Manus, he was just to fast and furious to dodge in my usual Elite Knight armor set. The Zweihander is an ultra greatsword in Dark Souls III. Assuming the Wiki is right, the only differences are the requirements and the moveset, but the Greatsword's thrust is much better, at least in my opinion. Why not have both? You could buy a bas.♥♥♥♥ sword from Andre. Dissappointing, because they look badass. On the flip side, its R2 attacks are nearly useless. I have never used these before, and would liek to roleplay as artorias (or maybe just a paladin.) 0. Dibsville. 76% Upvoted. I gave it away not long after making it .. Abyss greatsword and greatsword of artorias are both far underpowered. That is, it’s too long to wear, and too big to use in one hand with any reasonable expectation of ease. 7 comments. Param Bonus. Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. Abyss Greatsword prepare to be disappointed .. There's only 1 zwei per playthrough. The difference is that the greatsword strong attack is a thrust damage type. share. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A powerful relic, as well as a reminder of how … Damage scales with Humanity and caps at 10. Zweihander has more reach, I believe, plus that 2H R2 is so friggin' sexy... Ohhh man, with chaos? That said, the difference is really a matter of preference. The greatsword actually does a lot more poise damage with each swing. 9 years ago. 7 years ago. Both weapons at +5 enchanted have [E(15) / E(6)/ A(108) / --] scaling values. Yallus. since it has better scaling. "Greatsword of the Black Knights who wander Lordran. Loot in battle: Brigand Leader, Hedge Knight, Zweihander. However, there is almost no armour where the thrust resistance isn't at least equal or lower than the regular value. solari71. save hide report. So... is there ANY advantage in using the Greatsword? The Zweihander can be found in the cementary where the The_Catacombs is. 8 Moonlight Greatsword. Greatsword is an all around better damage dealer. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Notes 6 Trivia Obtained by transposing the Soul of the Twin Princes with Ludleth of Courland. 2020. With such reach and a Pose break of 53, which is not very affordable after considering mobility, the running attack is a great way to dead-angle and to halt running back stabs. Press J to jump to the feed. Name & Icon: Attack Power Damage Reduction (%) Requirements. Should I ascend my Zweihander to Artorias' Greatsword or just upgrade it normally? What is it that everyone likes about the zwei, the lower strength requirement? A greatsword is one word to describe a dedicated two-handed sword. The Abyss Greatsword is a much better version of the Greatsword of Artorias. © Valve Corporation. level 1. Adyr's Harbringer #2. 1. share. It is an excellent choice for you if you like the claymore but with some extra power behind it. Hiring new mercenaries: Hedge Knight, Crusader. Zweihander Ultra Greatsword. save. For the Dark Souls variant, see Zweihander. Also, if you guys have any … 1. share. Thrust damage is advantageous because there is no armour that is particularly good versus it. Maybe I've just used it more... A possible reason for this is the zweihander has a shockwave during its r2 attacks, when it connects with the ground. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Trivia 5 Upgrades 6 Videos Sold by Greirat for 6,000 souls once he returns from his pillaging travel in the Undead Settlement. Daniel is a freelance writer currently writing lists for CBR and TheGamer. Zweihander all the way. I use the zwei because it's lighter and looks cooler, but the greatsword I would say has a much more useful r2. Corruption then clinged deep into the blade, and thus, the Abyss Zweihander was born. 2. I hope you enjoy my and Franzetta's epic brawl. Posted by. Archived. What's better? Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. That's new to me, never really payed attention to the differences between thrust and slash defenses. Smallsword versus two-handed sword - which has the advantage and what can each swordsman do to counter the other? I got my Zwei at +10 and I'm not sure if I should make it +15 or if I should make it into the abyss greatsword and upgrade that. they do about the same damage in PvP and PvE, but i like the astora moveset. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Damn I'm getting turned on at the thought. The Abyss Greatsword scales it’s damage with soft humanity, and while, say, a chaos zweihander would outdamage it, the zwei doesn’t have the rad moveset or badass look to it (it probably does, I’ve just done 3 or 4 runs with it so it feels bland). I can't find a definitive answer for whether one is better or not. add a comment | 0. Report Save. Weapon: Zweihander … #2. for the motherland. Zweihander vs Greatsword. The Abyss Greatsword is created by ascending any Standard +10 greatsword, ultra greatsword, straight sword (other than the Broken Straight Sword or Straight Sword Hilt) or dagger at the Giant Blacksmith in Anor Londo with the Soul of Artorias and 5,000 souls. You can upgrade a dagger or straight sword to +10 for about 52,000 souls. Besides, you can use it early in the game (just run to the cemitery and take it). While the wiki may say both have the same letter-grade scaling, there IS still a possibility of difference: it is possibly that one may scale slightly better but still qualify as "B" scaling. Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. For the Dark Souls II variant, see Zweihander (Dark Souls II). Can be bought from a Weaponsmith. Using the Ultra-greatsword Zweihander against Manus. but I think that, their stat requirements and their movesets are all the differences there are between them. Crystal Greatsword: 190 – – – 100 C C – – 60 8.0 Flamberge: 100 – – – 100 D C – – 160 6.0 Great Lord Greatsword: 256 – – – 100 D D – – 400 8.0 Greatsword of Artorias: 120 85 – – 100 C C B B 400 10.0 Greatsword of Artorias (Cursed) 178 – – – 100 C C C C 400 10.0 Man-serpent Greatsword zweihander dark souls. December. 145. If infusing with an element, go astora's as it has higher elemental scaling then most weapons in the game. Use another weapon to make an abyss. Everyone seems to love the Zwei, but it seems no love is given to the greatsword. I've been using Zweihander, and likely will not change. The Greatsword should do more damage with the stats you have. WHY? Vertical Ultra Greatswords have the standard Ultra Greatsword moveset when they are 1-handed, but when 2-handed, the normal attacks turn into vertical slams and the ability to hit behind the user when the second normal attack is used. Astora's is also lighter. Report Save. It is usually much lower on heavy armour, though not on every set. 7 years ago. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 1. Pancakes beat stabs any day of the week. I got my Zwei at +10 and I'm not sure if I should make it +15 or if I should make it into the abyss greatsword and upgrade that. Proud owner of this mediocre looking, poorly maintained and typically Dark Souls relevant blog. Home. 8 comments. Posted by 1 month ago. Finally we got together and did the last brawl to conclude which UGS is the best! As for using abyss or not, you need to decide if the requirements are worth it. On a strength build, I use the Zweihander prior to the Demon Machete. It also has an amazing moveset. The Abyss Greatsword shares the longest reach of any weapon in its class, along with the two other swords of Artorias. Can be found in the Free Greenskin Prisoners contract. All rights reserved. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). This weapon is the heaviest, the biggest and probably the strongest you can acquire early in your early adventure. PSN: Dibsville EarthScraper wrote:OK, now I've just learnt that you never mess with Dibs on a Dark Souls topic, cause he will put you down. Watch Queue Queue. Can be found in the Undead Frozen Pond event. Mon May 27, 2013 10:56 am. Haven't found it yet but I will keep an eye out for it. A long two-handed blade as good for crushing as for cutting. 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